Hi Scott, Thank you for taking the time to share your feedback regarding our Delta Flex Jeans. We sincerely apologize for the disappointment caused by the sizing issues you experienced with both pairs, as well as the difficulties you encountered with the return process. We understand how frustrating it can be when products don't meet your expectations, particularly regarding fit and length. Your feedback is invaluable to us, and we take these concerns very seriously. While we're saddened to hear that you've moved on to another company, we appreciate your honest assessment as it helps us identify areas where we need to improve. We will be reaching out to see if we can address these concerns further. - Origin